BattleBit Remastered

BattleBit Remastered

sтеамPUNK Jul 2, 2023 @ 5:30am
Adding Faceit
Can you please explain why people are angry about the fact that the developers are going to add faceit? I don't understand the subject.
Originally posted by JustLulu:
Hey All,

Lulu from FACEIT here, I am VP of Product for Community Integrity and Labs, and among other things I help game developers that want to integrate with our products. You might have seen me on the Battlebit Discord or in other Steam Discussions.

I can read there are still some concerns around our Anticheat, how it works and what it does. And I get why some players are concerned, it is a new software you need to install to play your favorite game and therefore, you should all do your research.

With my comments below, I hope I can shed some light on what we do and don't do and how FACEIT Anticheat Lite is going to work.

First of all, we are developing a new product, called FACEIT Anticheat Lite, and as we develop it, we are working closely with the Battlebit Game Devs to collect feedback from all players on Steam, Discord etc.

1. FACEIT Anticheat Lite is going to support Linux. We are starting with Proton and SteamDeck, and we will then add other popular Linux builds. I will be sharing updates on progress in the Battlebit Discord.

2. FACEIT Anticheat lite gives the option to game developers to disable some system integrity checks and in particular, in battlebit we will have this configuration:
a) There will be no checks for secureboot, so nobody will need to enable it.
b) We won't be requiring to update your operating system.
c) You can run HyperV without any special requirements.

3. Both FACEIT Anticheat Lite and FACEIT Anticheat receive data only when a protected game is running. This means you need to have the user app running on the PC, otherwise the driver won't be sending anything to anywhere.

4. We don't collect keyboard strokes or anything that you might be typing. We don't know (or care) about your browsing history.

5. We have several internal controls in place who limit who can access the information, our code always gets reviewed and more. We also run external audits of our software, testing and pen testing.

6. All Personal Data that our anticheat processes is encrypted at transit and at rest, and we also apply CSLE encryption on each piece of information. This means that if someone manages somehow to hack into our databases, they will also need to find our encryption keys and this means accessing several places.

7. ESL Gaming Group has been acquired by Savvy Gaming which in turn is owned by PIF. PIF is the government investment fund from Saudi Arabia. Now, FACEIT Limited is based in the UK, and ESL Gaming is based in Germany. This means that at the ESL FACEIT Group, we have to comply with UK Privacy Laws, European Privacy Laws and the GDPR. Since the company operates globally, we also consider local regulations like the California Privacy Act and more. We process all of your data in compliance with these laws, and in accordance our privacy policy. Nothing is ever shared with PIF or the Saudi Govenment .

8. Our anticheat doesn't unistall or delete any software on any machine. It simply doesn't have that access. If we detect a forbidden driver, we give you an error and its up to players to decide what they want to do. If there were any such reports, it would be great if you can send them over for me to investigate.
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tommy81 Jul 2, 2023 @ 5:33am 
tinfoilers are afraid of someone able scanning their computers. thats basically all.
Royal Tea Jul 2, 2023 @ 5:40am 
And the people who cheat hate it too 😂
BiscuitTheCat Jul 2, 2023 @ 5:45am 
The only real downside to Faceit is Linux users will not be able to play on the servers that run it. Devs already said they will keep some servers running with EAC.
BÆRD Jul 2, 2023 @ 5:46am 
It doesn't support Linux based OSes, so 0.0000000001% of players wont be able to play the game because they refuse to install Windows on a dual boot machine.

Then there is a crowd which believes Faceit "spies" on them, whilst they use Windows 10/11 which collect their data every day for marketing purposes.
Anihillator Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:06am 
BC the game is working fine right now, but they somehow need to introduce a ♥♥♥♥♥♥, invasive anticheat and drop linux support? 2% of users might not seem high, but thats still tens of thousands of players.
Vilamo Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:11am 
Last edited by Vilamo; Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:11am
nice one Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:28am 
Because some players are on steam deck or linux OS, which is a bad news.
BattleBit Remastered could be completely unplayable to them if they switch their anti-cheat engine to FACEIT.

Linux users will be forced to install windows (dual boot) which they don't like doing cuz its a waste of storage
Frostea Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:45am 
I was always under the impression that most people who used Linux did so because they didn’t want to pay for windows. But isn’t windows free now.
Last edited by Frostea; Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:46am
Octarius Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by sтеамPUNK:
Can you please explain why people are angry about the fact that the developers are going to add faceit? I don't understand the subject.
Bro, just follow Discussion panel and catch up.
Faceit (except Vanguard) the most intrusive anti cheat on the market. It's basicly spyware controlling everything you do and type on your PC (no, not only when you play Battlebit). Program itself can also open "door" for other malware in future, infecting not only your desktop but also router and all devices connected with it (also by wifi). There are reports that in some cases Faceit deleted legal software and messed with official drivers. What worse, company has been bought by saudi who have their own point of view and philosophy about privacy and data selling.
Yes, it may be better anti cheat than Easy Anti Cheat. Question is: is it worth it. Specially that cheaters already have broken Faceit security and already selling ready hacks for it.
P.S. Faceit also will make people playing Battlebit on Linux or Steam Deck unable to do so.
Last edited by Octarius; Jul 2, 2023 @ 6:54am
cyberbillp Jul 2, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Yes, its not worth it.
They complain about faceit while continuing to use social media. Damn, your vanilla android is 5 times less secure then your windows with faceit. The only real donwside to faceit is linux users are goind to be cut off or secluded to their own small portion of servers, which are porbably going to be infested with cheaters.
Traveler Jul 2, 2023 @ 7:04am 
Because this game seems to be born perfect for the steam deck and yet it will be unplayable in it. I could see this game replacing a few fps on the deck as a main for it's sheer light weightedness. Perfect mobile game.
Octarius Jul 2, 2023 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by MιԋαɳÐҽNσσ฿:
They complain about faceit while continuing to use social media. Damn, your vanilla android is 5 times less secure then your windows with faceit.
First, I doubt. Second, does it mean I have to add another app infiltrating me? I thought that people in Estonia are bit smarter...
Vilamo Jul 2, 2023 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by MιԋαɳÐҽNσσ฿:
They complain about faceit while continuing to use social media. Damn, your vanilla android is 5 times less secure then your windows with faceit. The only real donwside to faceit is linux users are goind to be cut off or secluded to their own small portion of servers, which are porbably going to be infested with cheaters.
Don't use social media in any capacity, cell phones are near a necessary evil and yes steamdeck/linux users will be cut off. But faceit is not needed and is overkill for the game and average player. Even the devs have admitted this as faceit is primarily designed for esports.
Octarius Jul 2, 2023 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Vilamo:
Originally posted by MιԋαɳÐҽNσσ฿:
They complain about faceit while continuing to use social media. Damn, your vanilla android is 5 times less secure then your windows with faceit. The only real donwside to faceit is linux users are goind to be cut off or secluded to their own small portion of servers, which are porbably going to be infested with cheaters.
Don't use social media in any capacity, cell phones are near a necessary evil and yes steamdeck/linux users will be cut off. But faceit is not needed and is overkill for the game and average player. Even the devs have admitted this as faceit is primarily designed for esports.
But even if they implement some "version" of it or attach it only to some part of servers - we still gonna have to install it anyway. That's the problem - situation is 0-1. Faceit all way in or not at all. Middleground is as bad as implementing it in 100%
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