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Zixky Nov 5, 2021 @ 5:16pm
AI op catch up? Gong 260 and ai fly past me like rockets?
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Boonty Box Nov 5, 2021 @ 5:24pm 
unbeatable ai is basically unbeatable with x class yes
Zixky Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by Boonty Box:
unbeatable ai is basically unbeatable with x class yes
i'm in 998, so S2
Last edited by Zixky; Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:12pm
Zero McDohl Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:14pm 
I can beat them up to about expert, most of the time. Sometimes pro. Unbeatable is a definite no for me; they're way too fast for me, but oh well. As some have said, they want the AI to be faster, so here we are; faster AI.
Last edited by Zero McDohl; Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:15pm
Zero McDohl Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:30pm 
I guess my issue with the AI is that they are too neat. They never brake early - never over brake - never brake late - never under brake - never take different lines - never overshoot a turn - never over accelerate - never under accelerate - etc.

They can take one turn a thousand times and they will take the turn the exact same way, 1,000 times. It can be especially frustrating in games like forza, where the AI gets a massive boost in acceleration; so even being able to out corner the AI, they still take off like rockets on the straightaways.

Of course once you actually pass them, then they actually start slowing down, but good luck passing them lol.
Last edited by Zero McDohl; Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:31pm
Zixky Nov 5, 2021 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by Zero McDol:
I guess my issue with the AI is that they are too neat. They never brake early - never over brake - never brake late - never under brake - never take different lines - never overshoot a turn - never over accelerate - never under accelerate - etc.

They can take one turn a thousand times and they will take the turn the exact same way, 1,000 times. It can be especially frustrating in games like forza, where the AI gets a massive boost in acceleration; so even being able to out corner the AI, they still take off like rockets on the straightaways.

Of course once you actually pass them, then they actually start slowing down, but good luck passing them lol.
I try brake just before them and i go into the wall, they are on a train track just getting dragged around them perfect regardless of speed it seems
CEPHY Nov 5, 2021 @ 7:12pm 
AI seems pretty busted to me.

I mean, yes, I know I'm not the best driver out there, but I have a M4 with a rating in the upper end of S1, and I get 40 year old Ferraris flying past me on a straight at 320+ KPH.

And my AI is "only" set to "highly skilled".
Sysgen Nov 5, 2021 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by CEPHY:
AI seems pretty busted to me.

I mean, yes, I know I'm not the best driver out there, but I have a M4 with a rating in the upper end of S1, and I get 40 year old Ferraris flying past me on a straight at 320+ KPH.

And my AI is "only" set to "highly skilled".

Many configurations can get you a high S1. Depends on the car, track, surface, your settings etc.. So many variables that you need to adapt to.
Natasha Nov 5, 2021 @ 7:16pm 
That's a good sign of a lazy AI design that has been around since their first game, this game has a lot of that.
Zero McDohl Nov 6, 2021 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Natasha:
That's a good sign of a lazy AI design that has been around since their first game, this game has a lot of that.
Yep, no different than other various racing games wanting to boost the AI to create artificial difficulty.

As an example:
I did a test on the unbeatable setting in a drag race; I used a drag specific tuned Supra. Not only did the AI out accelerate me, but I didn't even start catching up till the last few feet of the race. The AI doesn't use drag builds, and also uses all of their gears, so really, where's the acceleration coming from?, and it's a simple easy answer, an obvious boost to the AI's abilities.
JackieTheDemon Nov 6, 2021 @ 4:16pm 
AI is broke in this game.
Foxrun Nov 6, 2021 @ 4:24pm 
I can win a handful of races on expert but if I may one wrong move then I am toast. Highly skilled seems more balanced right now.
Sysgen Nov 6, 2021 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Foxrun:
I can win a handful of races on expert but if I may one wrong move then I am toast. Highly skilled seems more balanced right now.

There were races in FH4 where Unbeatable was a joke. I've done a few here and so far the difficult labels are far more accurate.
Zero McDohl Nov 6, 2021 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
Originally posted by Foxrun:
I can win a handful of races on expert but if I may one wrong move then I am toast. Highly skilled seems more balanced right now.

There were races in FH4 where Unbeatable was a joke. I've done a few here and so far the difficult labels are far more accurate.
I can now consistently win on pro, however it depends on what car I'm driving and at what class. As it stands, I am running 1 to almost 3 seconds faster than the AI on paper in circuits at pro, however it takes me almost 3 laps to even catch up to the leader.

Unbeatable is ridiculous and not simply because the AI is fast. I am running .5 seconds faster than the leader per lap and can't catch the AI, .5 or mare faster than the others save a few running .2 to .3 seconds faster than me, but stuck somewhere in the back of the pack.

Much like Horizon 4, it's the same headache. The player runs faster than the AI on paper, however in actuality, the AI has a ridiculous amount of acceleration due to getting engines that they shouldn't have. To sum up, the AIs' cars are tuned as if they have stock treads and monster engines, and yet they are also are able to corner fast.

Sorry dude, but that simply isn't accurate to me. Accurate would be driving a car within the limits of it's actual tuning. But hey, at least I can consistently win on pro now.

fixed

Then there's the sandbagging, I don't even want to get started on the sandbagging.
Last edited by Zero McDohl; Nov 6, 2021 @ 9:18pm
Tiberius Nov 6, 2021 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by Zero McDol:
I guess my issue with the AI is that they are too neat. They never brake early - never over brake - never brake late - never under brake - never take different lines - never overshoot a turn - never over accelerate - never under accelerate - etc.

They can take one turn a thousand times and they will take the turn the exact same way, 1,000 times. It can be especially frustrating in games like forza, where the AI gets a massive boost in acceleration; so even being able to out corner the AI, they still take off like rockets on the straightaways.

Of course once you actually pass them, then they actually start slowing down, but good luck passing them lol.

I also noticed this. Their cornering is simply flawless
Thunder Bandit Nov 6, 2021 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by Siicky:
Originally posted by Boonty Box:
unbeatable ai is basically unbeatable with x class yes
i'm in 998, so S2

S2 and your ONLY doing 260? lol no wonder you're getting rekt.
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